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David Barton – most dangerous man in America and for our children

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David Barton appeared on “The Daily Show” on May 4th and I sighed. David Barton is a SELF-TAUGHT historian and favorite of the cheap labor religious right conservatives. He has been involved in re-writing history text books in the Texas state school system, and testifying to state legislatures and Congress. Luckily “The Daily Show” had a real scholar on the other night to counter Barton’s false view of history.

The main problem with David Barton is his history seems to stop in 1860. The most ridiculous claim he makes is that the Bill of Rights don’t apply to the states since they didn’t when the Constitution came into force in 1791. He ignores or dismisses the 14th Amendment that explicitly applied the Bill of Rights to the states.

Here is the first segment of Barton’s interview on May 4th

Click here to see Part 2 of the extended unedited Barton interview

Click here to see Part 3 of the extended unedited Barton interview

There are so many falsehoods that Barton communicates in the interview that the People for the American Way has detailed pages specific to the Daily Show interview. For example:

5. The Treaty of Tripoli

In discussing the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli and its clear declaration that “America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,” Barton told Stewart first that the language in the treaty’s Article 11 did not mean what it clearly states, and second that the U.S. State Department says there really is no Article 11 in the Treaty. Here is the full text of Article 11:

“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”

Barton argues unconvincingly that the Article was only meant to imply that American Christianity is different than European Christianity. His assertion that Article 11 is not in the treaty is simply wrong; it was unquestionably included in the treaty that was ratified unanimously by the Senate and approved by John Adams.

GOP Leaders’ Favorite ‘Historian’ David Barton on The Daily Show: Dishonest History & Frightening Constitutional Theory

Then on Wednesday May 18th, The Daily Show interviewed University of Pennsylvania historian Richard Beeman. Unlike David Barton, Beeman has a degree in history and works as a historian.

Beeman said on the show:

“The Constitution is federally devoid of any mention of religion except for one provision which says there shall be no test for public office or any position of public trust, so the only mention of religion is keep religion out of our government,” Beeman says, and “the debate in the [constitutional] Convention is virtually devoid” of religious references.

Here is part 1 of Richard Beeman’s extended unedited interview where he takes Barton to task for ignoring the 14th Amendment.

Link to Part 2 of the Beeman extended interview

As the Religious Right Watch wrote:

During part II of the interview with Beeman, Stewart noted that while Barton told him that he was OK with Sharia law in the US, he would likely make the opposite case to his conservative supporters.

In fact, that is exactly what happened, as Barton dedicated an entire radio program to denying what he plainly told Stewart about Sharia.

Such dishonest actions reflect the fact that Barton is a political activist, not a historian — he even was paid by the Republican National Committee to mobilize church groups to support President Bush’s reelection and Republican candidates. As Kyle notes, even his documentary on African American history is brazenly partisan.

Constitutional Historian Rebuts David Barton On The Daily Show

The goal of people like Barton – besides trying to institute Christian Dominionism – is to focus their religious right agenda on the local and state level as way to outflank national policies and laws that protect our religious freedom.

David Barton is a flim-flam man who has no real expertise in history and he should be kept FAR FAR FAR away from our government and our children.

Right wing wants religious freedom as long it only includes Christianity

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Recently the religious right and their propaganda arm FOX News complained about NASA reaching out to the Muslim community and Muslim’s wanting to build mosques in the US. The Daily Show had a great segment on their fauxrage.

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Jon: But fox isn’t just concerned with Muslims in space — they are also very concerned with Muslims in mosques.

growing outrage over plans to build more mosques and Islamic centers in America.
Now in rural Tennessee a plan to build a mosque has sparked vandalism and death threats.
There’s Wisconsin, Sheepshead Head Bay, Brooklyn, Staten Island and the mosque at ground zero.
There are a number of people asking why are these mosques being built in my community.

Jon: Oh, oh, I think I know buzz there are Muslims who live in their community. And I guess they can’t find the prayer carpet room in the church or synagogue. Lest this seem like religious prejudice, rest assured it is not. — About building mosques. It is about what goes on inside its mosque.

There’s some people that are afraid. And they are afraid for good reason. Because islamic philosophy and ideology starts in a mosque. Their mission is to spread Islam to be dominant in the united states.

Jon: What? One of tenets of Islam is to spread Islam. That would be like if Christians went places and built churches

Mike Huckabee is a religious hypocrite

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Mike Huckabee appeared on The Daily Show to shuck his new book “Do the Right Thing” which, when boiled down, says if we all treated others as we would like to be treated then the world would be full of snow cones and candy canes. Then he talks out of the other side of his mouth trying to justify treating gay people as second class citizens.

It’s the same old story of “do as I say not as I do” when he tries to sell his Jesus principle to the TDS audience.

Huckabee’s utopia doesn’t fit the reality of his position and host Jon Stewart shines a bright light on the hypocrisy. A video of the interview follows the transcript:

Huckabee: But the point being, in those states, Jon, an average of 68% of the voters across America have affirmed traditional marriage- it’s not that they have tried to say they’re gonna ban something, as much as they’re gonna affirm what has always been-

Stewart: California did ban it, in essence they said you can’t get married-

Huckabee: Actually, they have reaffirmed what they had done before-

Stewart: But people got married in the interim and- then they went back and said you’re not- I guess my question is…

You said, reaffirming the tradition of marriage over 5000 years, which takes it back to the Old Testament, where polygamy was the norm, not a heterosexual marriage between two couples [sic] that choose each other.

Marriage has evolved greatly over those 5000 years, from a property arrangement, polygamy… we’ve redefined it constantly. It used to be that people of different races could not… marry.

It strikes me as very convenient, to go back to the Bible and say, “Hey, man… we gotta look at the way they define marriage…” Why don’t we look at the way they did slavery, in the Bible?

Huckabee: But if we change the definition, then we really do have to change it to accommodate all lifestyles. We have to say to the guy in West Texas, who had 27 wives, that’s okay. And I’m not sure that I hear alot of people arguing that that’s a great idea.

Stewart: I don’t know why polygamy has an issue here. It seems like a fundamental human right. You write in your book that all people are created equal, and yet, for gay people, you believe it is corrosive to society to allow them to have the privileges that all humans enjoy.

Huckabee: Well, there is a difference between the equality of each individual and the equality of what we do and the sameness of what we do. I mean, the fact is, marriage is under our law a privilege; it’s not an absolute defined right.

Stewart: So what if we make it that Hispanics can’t vote?

Huckabee: Well, I don’t think that’s a really good idea. I’m not sure that we should do that.

Stewart: So why can’t gay people get married?

Huckabee: Well, because marriage still means a male and a female relationship. And until the laws are overturned, it still means that.

Stewart: I disagree. I think, you know… segregation used to be the law until the courts intervened.

(applause)

Huckabee: There is a big difference between a person being black, and a person practicing a lifestyle and engaging in a marital relationship that-

Stewart: Okay. This is helpful. This gets to the crux of it- I think it’s the difference of between what you believe gay people are and what I do. And I live in New York City, so I’m just gonna make a supposition that I have more experience being around them…

(laughter and applause)

And I’ll tell you this. Religion is far more of a choice than homosexuality. And the protections that we have, for religion- we protect religion- and talk about a lifestyle choice! That is absolutely a choice. Gay people don’t choose to be gay.

At what age did you choose not to be gay?

(applause)

Huckabee: But Jon, religious people don’t have the right to burn others at the stake; they don’t have the right to do anything they wish to do-

Stewart: You’re not being asked to marry a guy. They’re asking to marry the person they love.

Huckabee: But they’re asking to redefine the word. And frankly, we’re probably not going to come to terms. But if the American people are not convinced that we should overturn the definition of marriage, then I would say that those who support the idea of same sex marriage have got alot of work to do, to convince the rest of us, and as I said, 68% of the American population has made that decision.

Stewart: You talk about the pro life movement being one of the great shames of our nation. I think, if you want number two, I think it’s, I think it’s that. It’s an absolute- it’s a travesty that people have forced, someone who is gay, to have to make their case- that they deserve the same basic rights-

(applause)

Huckabee: Jon, excuse me, I respect you and I disagree with that- I really do- and one of the things that I want to make sure that people understand is that if a person does not necessarily support the idea of changing the definition of marriage, it does not mean that they are a homophobe. It does not mean that they are filled with hate and animosity-

Stewart: I was in no way suggesting-

Huckabee: No no, you were not saying that, but I think some people would like to throw the epithets at some people, whether they’re like me, or someone else-

Stewart: But it does beg the question, I have to say, and again… is “WHY?”

You know, you keep talking about, jeez, it would be redefining a word… and it feels like semantics is cold comfort, when it comes to humanity and especially someone such as yourself, who is I believe an empathetic person who is someone who seeks to get to the heart of problems, this idea that, “Jeez, I dunno Jon, definitions and society…” I mean, marriage was not even a sacrament until the 1200s…

Huckabee: Words do matter. Definitions matter. And I think that we have to be very thoughtful and careful before we say that we are going to undo an entire social structure. I mean, let’s face it, the basic purpose of a marriage is not just to create the next generation but to train our replacements. And it is in the context of 23 male and 23 female chromosomes coming together at the point of conception to create the next human life.

Stewart: I think you are looking at sexuality and not attributes, and it’s odd because the conservative mantra is a “meritocracy”, and I think what you are suggesting is the fact that being gay parents makes you not as good as others and i would suggest that a gay, loving family with a financially stable background beats the hell out of Britney Spears and Kevin Federline any day of the week.

Huckabee: I’m not gonna defend Britney and Kevin, for sure.

Stewart: But I appreciate you having the conversation and I just, uh, it’s just, it’s just wild.

Mike Huckabee on The Daily Show 12/09/2008